Gale Banks Engineering Power Stroke Diesel Powerpack Product Review, Part Two
So what did it do for Mr Dune's 1997 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 you ask!
As we all know in the real world things can be a little different...
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My F350 is equipped with a 4" SuperLift, 35x12.50x16.5s and a 4.10:1 axle ratio. Unlike the truck that was tested so extensively above, which had the same gears, but sported those sickly cookie cutter tires that come from the factory.
Now we all know that big meats look better, and work better off road. Why you can't go five feet into soft sand with a P285/75R16, four wheel drive or no. But the disadvantage of big shoes is they rob power and decrease fuel economy, ride so bad you need a sports bra and a kidney belt on Interstate 10, and they make a ton of noise...
But they sure do look great!
How'd my rig do on the dyno? Much better than I expected!
The overall diameter of a 35" tire is about 10% greater than a stocker, which should pencil out to a little more than a 10% lower reading on the dyno's rollers, caused by parasitic horsepower loss, PLUS reduced torque due to an overall lower final drive ratio (about what you would have with 3.73:1 factory gears).
Baseline tests on my truck before the modifications came in about 10-12% lower than the 175-185 hp and the 375-390 lb-ft mark that every one of the dozens of stock Power Strokes that has been tested here at Banks Engineering. That backs up the estimated loss in power caused by the 35" tires.
Strapped down on the dyno, the blower to simulate a 60+ mph in position, the motor warmed up to about 600° EGT (Exhaust Gas Temp). Peter Treydte, Banks Ace Engineer and Rocket Scientist let it rip!
The test started at 35 mph and ran thru 75 mph. The transmission was in third gear and the computer was shunted to allow the torque converter to be manually locked up to prevent parasitic horsepower loss. Pictured on the right are the actual dyno slips from the run. The test results were amazing. even with the big 35" tires my F350 pulled 280.8 hp and 563.6 lb-ft of torque on the best run, the lowest was 278.9 hp and 555.6 lb-ft . That's 95% of the hp and 94% of the torque produced with stock tires! Much better than we had expected! Much less than the 10-12% lower readings we had anticipated.
I just stood there with my mouth open... In a day when we are accustomed to have the numbers "fudged," here's a product that really delivers as promised! Perhaps even better when you consider that Banks promises an increase in fuel economy of about 10%. I've gotten 20%. I've gotta say I'm impressed. And I can't wait to get my 40ft Weekend Warrior Fifth Wheel hooked up to see what this system will do with a 15,500lb trailer in tow. I'm thinking about 70mph up the Baker Grade!
Dynamometer Testing Facility at Banks Engineering: Getting it set up and checking the numbers.
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Dynamometer Test Results From Mr Dune's F350:
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License Plate : MR DUNE
Yr/Make/Model : 1997 / Ford / F-350
License Plate : MR DUNE
Yr/Make/Model : 1997 / Ford / F-350
--- Test Data ---Horsepower:
Increase at peak 63.3%
Best gain 80.4% WOW!RPM
PowerPack
Stock
Gain
% Gain
1400
98.5
76.2
22.3
29.3
1500
114.0
87.5
26.5
30.3
1600
128.0
96.3
31.7
32.9
1700
145.0
103.4
41.6
40.2
1800
162.3
113.7
48.6
42.7
1900
181.3
120.2
61.1
50.8
2000
198.2
126.2
72.0
57.0
2100
216.4
131.6
84.8
64.4
2200
233.2
137.0
96.2
70.2
2300
246.8
142.7
104.1
73.0
2400
256.7
148.9
107.8
72.4
2500
264.5
151.2
113.3
74.9
2600
272.2
155
117.2
75.6
2700
274.9
159.8
115.1
72.0
2800
275.8
162.3
113.5
69.9
2900
276.9
164.9
112.0
67.9
3000
278.9
170.8
108.1
63.3
3100
278.9
166.0
112.9
68.0
3200
276.6
156.0
120.6
77.3
3300
258.4
143.2
115.2
80.4
Torque:
Increase at peak 58.9%
Best gain 80.4% WOW!
RPM
PowerPack
Stock
Gain
% Gain
1400
369.5
285.9
83.7
29.3
1500
399.2
306.4
92.8
30.3
1600
420.2
316.1
104.1
32.9
1700
448.0
319.4
128.5
40.2
1800
473.6
331.8
141.8
42.7
1900
501.2
332.3
168.9
50.8
2000
520.4
331.4
189.0
57.0
2100
541.2
329.1
212.1
64.4
2200
556.7
327.1
229.7
70.2
2300
563.6
325.9
237.7
73.0
2400
561.7
325.8
235.9
72.4
2500
555.6
317.6
238.0
74.9
2600
549.8
313.1
236.7
75.6
2700
534.7
310.8
223.9
72.0
2800
517.3
304.4
212.9
69.9
2900
501.5
298.6
202.8
67.9
3000
488.3
299.0
189.2
63.3
3100
472.5
281.2
191.3
68.0
3200
454.0
256.0
197.9
77.3
3300
411.2
227.9
183.3
80.4
You can see from the above rpm breakdown that the increases are not only huge, but across the ENTIRE powerband! It pulls stronger earlier and pulls stronger longer. Unlike many performance upgrades which can sacrifice low end for high rpm performance gains, or vice-versa. The PowerPack System delivers enormous increases right from idle all the way to an unbelievable 80.4% increase in horsepower and torque at redline!
From the screen shots below you can see for yourself what this system will do for you! Horsepower and torque curves are almost flat within the entire range of normal driving from 50 to 75 mph.
Screen Shots During Testing
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50.3 mph
234.6 hp
513.4 lb-ft55.4 mph
261.4 hp
518.6 lb-ft60.0 mph
274.9 hp
509.9 lb-ft65.6 mph
273.2 hp
463.0 lb-ft70.4 mph
278.7 hp
440.9 lb-ft75.2 mph
273.2 hp
406.0 lb-ft
What Comes In The Banks PowerPack System:
The system is shipped complete and ready to install (provided you have the proper tools and know-how).
What you get for your hard earned dough:
Low restriction Banks "Ram-Air Filter," complete with a "Recharger" filter cleaning/oiling kit.
A new turbo outlet pipe which replaces the stock smashed flat piece of junk (pictured right) with a 3" mandrel bent stainless steel piece.
3.5" Monster stainless steel mandrel bent tailpipe with 4" polished stainless tip.
Banks exclusive "Otto-mind" electronic module, which provide calibration to make it all work.
Boost gauge to monitor turbo output.
EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) gauge to keep an eye on engine heat more accurately than with a coolant temp gauge.
Banks "Quick-Turbo" turbine housing. Which spools up more quickly than the factory unit.
Banks Techni-cooler. The intercooler dramatically lowers the temperature of the intake creating a much more dense charge.
Banks exclusive "Trans-Command."(Automatic transmission only.) Which changes shift points and firmness to get not only the most from your performance increase, but increases trans life as well.
All required hardware and detailed installation instructions.
Really slick fender badges (pictured right) so the slowpokes you pass on those 7% grades know who smoked 'em!
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Besides their top of the line PowerPack System, Banks Engineering offers its Stinger and Stinger-Plus Systems for those that may not require as much power or are working on a tighter budget. We've included the test results below so you can get an idea of which system may be right for your needs. For pricing and availability please contact a sales and technical professional at Banks Engineering. You'll find their contact info below. Click images to enlarge.
Peak Horsepower
Stinger 240 hp
Stinger-Plus 272 hp
PowerPack 296 hpPeak Torque
Stinger 465 lb-ft
Stinger-Plus 540 lb-ft
PowerPack 613 lb-ft
Conclusions:No product is perfect... But this one comes so close that its only flaw is trivial and an easy fix. The only problem I have found is the turbo boost gauge. As you approach 20 pounds of boost, the needle vibrates wildly. Banks Engineer Peter Treydte informed me that it may have an incorrect bleed orifice on the sender, and is shipping me the proper one. Certainly not a big deal to correct!
The only other thing worth mention is you will experience a slight increase in interior noise level. SO WHAT! Anytime you switch to a high performance exhaust system, this is part of the trade off. The noise increase is minimal and only noticeable at low speed or hard acceleration... Nothing turning up the tunes a notch or two won't take care of. Personally I like it, sounds bad to the bone!
This product delivers in a big way. The performance improvements score off the chart . And my initial satisfaction is 110%! Gale Banks promises amazing results and he comes through on that promise. Everything fits, and all required parts to complete the job were included in the shipping cartons. Construction, fit, finish and attention to detail are of flawless quality. I would recommend this product without reservation to my Mom, my highest rating! Five stars!
Excellent job guys! You have a winner!
Now that you know you gotta have a Banks System for your own rig, be sure to stay tuned for next month's installment...When we show you how to get it done and run a full photo essay following Banks Engineering's ace technician "Bart" Bartoli through the whole installation process on my '97 Power Stroke diesel equipped Ford F350 Crew Cab 4x4!
There will be well over 100 detailed color photos so you can see not only what gets done, but how do do it yourself!
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Be it a Chevy, Dodge, Ford pickup or a gas or diesel motorhome...CLICK HERE!
www.bankspower.comGale Banks Engineering
546 Duggan Avenue
Azusa, CA 917021-800-GET-POWER
1-800-438-7693